...between Robert Birnbaum and Camille Paglia. In it Paglia says "But there is something—a craving for something. A reorientation. So I am saying, “Back to basics. Let’s begin again, get the big broom.” She goes on: "Sweep out all this stuff, this post-modernist, structuralism stuff which hasn’t led to anything but a lot of very successful, tenure and promotion and salaries." And she goes on.